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Quantum Mechanics}Addition of Angular Momentum

For 2 electrons, one recalls that the there are three spin triplet states and one spin singlet state (hence their names). One can apply the lowering operator multiple times to the up-up state to arrive at, respectively, the up-down state, the down-up state, and then the down-down state (the spin-singlet state).

Applying the lowering operator to choice I, one gets choice III. Applying the lowering operator to that, one gets down-down. These are the 3 spin-triplet states.

By orthogonality, the down-down state has a negative sign. So, only choices I and III are in the triplet configuration.

(David J. Griffiths vanity alert---the QM problems thus far are all straight out of his textbook, An Introduction to Quantum Mechanics.)

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2014-03-21 15:27:32

The answer is D because the electrons can be in different angular momentum states (l), and can therefore both be spin up.
2008-12-28 14:52:36
There are four possible spin states for the two electron system that are either symmetric or antisymmetric. There is only one that is antisymmetric, (hence singlet), but three that are symmetric, (hence triplet).

You need to be able to pick out the symmetric spin eigenfunctions. These will look the same after you exchange the labels for the electrons. This gives I and III.

Relabeling II makes it change sign - it's the antisymmetric singlet.
2008-10-31 14:49:35
Answer is (C).

State I. has two electrons in the same state, ergo, it is out.

State II is antisymmetric and is therefore the singlet state of the two electrons, also out since the problem asks for a triplet state.

State III is symmetric and in a valid form to be a triplet.
Poop Loops
2008-11-01 21:09:52
Nope, the answer is D. It says so in my practice exam given by the ETS.

Where you went wrong is assuming that both spins up = same state. It is not. They can be in different orbital shells, but still have spin up.
2011-09-03 08:54:07
Tensordyne is completely right.

The first state is asumming both electrons are spin up. And the problem is asking for a valid eigenfunction of a triplet state ≥S, which means same orbital L=0.

Thus, the right answer is C, since the wave function must be antysimmetric. Recall that the spatial part of the wave function is symetric (L=0) and therefore the spin part has to be antysimmetric.

Option I is not antysymmetric.
2011-09-30 11:35:47
No, look at poop loops' answer. The spin states given to you are NOT the total wavefunctions - just the spin states. In fact, the spin state for the triplet state is ALWAYS symmetric under exchange because one electron is in the n = 2 orbital and the other is in n = 1, yielding a total wavefunction that is antisymmetric under exchange
2007-05-17 11:44:09
Watch out don't be dissín David!!! (Hint, Hint, Wink, Wink, that is because he was one of the authorís of the testís, look at his E&M book and Elementary Particle book as well)
2007-10-17 00:06:53
I'm weary of saying down-down is the condition for spin singlet state. One can derive the answer by applying the exchange operator and determining the sign of the eigenvalue. A +1 eigenvalue (of exchange operator) yields a symmetric state. A -1 value yields an anit-symmetic state. All symmetric states are grouped as a triplet and the anti-symmetric makes the singlet state. Explicitly:

Let X = exchange operator. A = up, B = down, and A1 = particle 1 up, B1 = particle 1 down, etc...

So, for choice I: X A1 A2 = A2A1 = (+1) A1A2
II: X(A1B2 - A2B1) = (A2B1 - A1B2) = (-1) (A1B2 - A2B1)
III: X (A1B2 + A2B1) = (+1) (A1B2 + A2B1)

So, only +1 eigenvalues are grouped in triplet state. (-1) is the singlet state.
2009-06-10 22:02:21
Nope, 0 is the singlet state. You are writing spin states in the total spin basis, s=s1+s2. 2 spin 1/2 particles can only add up to total spin zero or 1 (given by CG coefficients), there is no -1.
2013-10-14 03:24:47
Look at this sneaky bit of misdirection from p215 of the QM book though:

"I would be delinquent if I failed to mention the archaic nomenclature for atomic states, because all chemists and most physicists use it (and the people who make up the GRE LOVE this kind of thing)"

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