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Mechanics}Normal Modes

Because there are two degrees of freedom in this problem, there are two normal mode frequencies.

Because there is no external torque acting on the system, the center of mass of the system stays the same through time.

From common sense, one deduces that \omega_1 has to do with the outer masses moving perfectly out of phase, i.e., masses A and C moving either towards the left and right (away from each other), respectively, or right and left (towards each other), respectively---and B being perfectly stationary, thereby ``conserving" the center of mass.

The other angular frequency, \omega_2, has to do with either masses A and C moving in phase and mass B out of phase.

\omega_1 is actually equivalent to having a single mass on a string, since because the middle mass doesn't move, it acts as a sort of support for the spring. \omega_1 = \sqrt{k/m}, which would correspond to choice (B). (Of course, one should recall the obvious, that \omega = 2\pi f.)

(Incidentally, one can derive \omega_2 without having to resort to the formalism of matrix mechanics: Since the center of mass remains 0, one has R = \frac{mx-2mX+mx}{m+2m+m}. Solving, one gets X=x. The displacement of the middle mass, mass B, is thus x+X=2x, while the displacements of the smaller masses, masses A and C, are both x. The displacement of each spring is 2x. Potential energy is thus U=2\frac{1}{2}k(2x)^2=\frac{1}{2}8kx^2. The kinetic energy is T=2\frac{1}{2}m(\dot{x})^2+\frac{1}{2}(2m)(\dot{x})^2=\frac{1}{2}4m(\dot{x})^2. The normal mode frequency is deduced by \omega_2=\sqrt{\frac{k_{eff}}{m_{eff}}}=\sqrt{\frac{8k}{4m}}=\sqrt{\frac{2k}{m}})

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2019-08-23 02:01:26
I always used to get confused over cross section problems because I had a hard time conceptually understanding what it meant. I think part of the issue was that in problems like these, I would want to ask \"scatter by how much of an angle?,\" or I would get concerned over the particulars of what a scattering event was. police pursuit gameNEC
2019-08-09 05:37:19
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2016-10-27 16:53:54
If the centre particle B isn\'t moving, then you can think of it as a wall. Then A and C don\'t know about each other, and will each independently oscillate as if they were simple oscillators, with frequency \\omega = \\sqrt{k/m}\r\n\r\nSo the answer is choice B (which in this case is the only one that has particle B at rest)NEC
2011-11-09 17:48:24
Why isn't it C or D?NEC
2011-11-02 15:23:13
In a two mass point coupled system, there are two normal modes. The one with higher frequency corresponds to the motion in opposite phase. The frequency is lower when the mass points are in phase. In this system the number of normal modes is three. The first one; w=0, there is no vibration but translation. Second (k/m); the mass between is at rest. Third (2k/m) the mass between is in opposite phase with the others, and if we take the system two by two, the near mass points are in opposite phase with higher frequency. So we can apply the same lower frequency >in phase and higher frequency> in opposite phase rule if we take the mass points two by two.NEC
2011-10-25 13:56:57
According to what I learnt from professor Walter Lewin, I think the number of normal modes depends on the number of masses, not the degree of freedom. One normal mode should be zero.
2013-03-02 11:32:12
The number of normal modes does depend on the number of degrees of freedom. For example, the number of modes would be different if we consider up and down motion (transverse modes), while the number of masses remains the same. Nevertheless, I agree with you, there is and extra trivial normal mode that equals zero, that happens when there is no vibration, all the masses moves with the same speed.
2008-06-19 22:30:48
Another way to understand that it's the first normal mode is that the same boundary conditions have the same solutions: if the center mass is still, each other mass may as well be attached to a wall.

Then, we know immediately that the spring / mass system oscillates with frequency \sqrt{k/m}.

Inspired by e/m problem of a point charge and an infinite conducting plane: may as well ditch the plane and add an image charge.
2010-11-01 12:34:59
I did the problem the same way but the e/m analogy is excellent! Thanks.

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